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Max~ aesthetics

The piece incorperates 3 max windows and 2 screens, for the assessment I decided to use my laptop and the projector in the room. The lap top screen was this first image ^ . With instructions and information to the right for the user.

There are 2 ways to get a quote, the fragment of text. The first is through motion. When you click the green box the green LED comes on, on the projector which shows the quotes, the box on the left, motion box starts flicking through quotes. There are studies that show soemthing seen in a glimse can have more effect on the mind, the idea being you glimse soemthing and try and stop the flicking by pressing the green box(on the laptopscreen the user is sat at) and the user then gets a quote, maybe not what they were aiming for but something to look at and think about.

The seperate max patch in the back ground behind this piece is a simple motion catcher that gives out numbers that using max I was able to keep to the 100 quotes. I used the same patch before in the Creative web assessment but made the patch using what I learnt and further help and research after the max sessions and made with this deadline in mind at the same time.

This is the window shown on the 2nd screen, 2 parts. On the left the motion part shown here. The full reference to the quote shown can be seen at the bottom of the screen.

The second quote finder is through drawing! I really love and believe in drawing as a break and I very much see this whole piece as something to do as a break. Here you can draw like I have drawn here (an example of the set up, lap top and projector with a quote) in this example you can scroll across the projector screen to see the quote for either the drawing or the motion.

Just undernieth the drawing is the max for it, when the window is full screen you don’t see this section unless you scroll down. the 2 numbers coming out of the drawing denote the motion and wether someones drawing, the equation they link to is the one I spent some time struggling over as I found the way of explaining what I wanted to max in equation form a bit triky, I feel I sort of stubled upon the rite equasion in the end and as it worked celebrated and didnt question it much. After that max tells it to translate the number into 1 to 100 and send the image to the ‘frag2′ window, which is on the projector screen.

So if you were to see both quotes at once this would be the result. I think seeing 2 at once is also interesting as you are likely to start making connections between them and perhaps give you more to think about.

During the assessment the point that came up from everyone were bits like what if the drawings could be attatched or intergrated with the quotes so you can see the previous drawings – this one I had thought about perhaps with a different visual but was one of those things that went down to the deadline. I think I perhaps take a bit more time over cultivating the idea so that when I get it developed I have less time on the programming. Aother point was to intergrate the 2 quotes windows so if you were using the motion you would only see that one and if you were using the drawing you would only see that one – this I have to say only became apparent to me when I got in the room 25mins early to test the piece with the projector and check about unseen issues that may occur with the second screen, this being one of them as ideally there would have been more space between the 2 quotes was my thought at the time but haveing the max set up so it was one quote or other could work as well. Although at the same time as this I quite liked seeing the 2 quotes there at once.

The idea of what I came out with was a fragment of the day that could be spent thinking about a fragmen of text that that might be soemthing you take time thinking over or just glance at, gaining this through either motion or through drawing, drawing which I wanted to be the focus as I feel drawing is left out of the lives of far too many.

 

Max input -> output

Once the output was set I looked back at my ideas for inputs, I narrowed them down to a few ideas. One I really like the idea of (and will certainly make) which is the top drawing, that I will go on in further detail. In this first image, the second was an idea based around the poetry of the out put, there is a Japanese legend tells that anyone who folds a thousand cranes will be granted a wish or as I believe the legend has adapted 100 are sometimes folded and hung together to wish good health to family members or close friends. The idea I had toward this was to have 100 or 1000 cranes each hung by a seperate strung (usualy they’d be strung together) so that the visitor could come along and take a crane, the string being pulled would signal to max to identify a certain quote, so if there were 100 cranes and 100 quotes no 2 people who take a crane would get the same quote. The third idea was to have a drawing input so perhaps you would have one screen where you could draw, taking a moment out of your day to sit and do soemthing perhaps that you would otherwise do or thing about doing, and then acording to your drawing you’d get a quote.

An addition could be that somehting generates a quote maybe the overall colour of your clothing or movement and from that quote you draw what you think of wether to do with the quote directly ro something that you have a connection with the quote from, this would then be attatched to the quote so the next person who sees the same quote would see what the last person drew in response and could add their own drawing.

The first of the ideas I am most keen on, I got the idea from listening to Beavis and Butthead talking on their CD about ‘braken stuff’ and I thought what a great excuse to smash somehting into fragments, originally I was thinking cheap plates and cups but somehow I got the idea of small gnomes you can get from pound stores. Something more pleaseing in the idea of smashing gnomes. I thought if I got a circular canvus, paint a bullseye, put a pressure sensor behind the middle so that when the gnome hits the sensor picks it up and sends a message to max which would pull up a quote so after you have the fun of breaking soemthing into a fragment you get given a fragment to think about in a calmer way. The idea of a good short break from whatever you usually do. However last minute I found that the pressure sensor I got wasnt working. So i shifted ideas back to drawing as I really love drawing and feel its quite missed part of life for so many people.

Within altering my patch where the numbers from the drawing programme met the quotes I encountered an issue. When you tap the mouse pad to start drawing all the numbers that come out are constantly changes which max finds difficult to prosess brining up all the images but there was a 1 when the mouse was down and a 0 when it stopped, so that works as a good switch. However Im not quite used to the language within max and as much as I knew I needed an ‘if’ equasion but I couldnt work out how to write it, so I spent a good few hours working on one fairly small equasion.

These 2 pages of A4 have some of the equasions I tried and failed with and writing out how I think it would work. In the end I did figure it out, and was very pleased as its certainly not how I thought it would look even after looking at the example equasions.

With these parts of max put together I then worked on the asethetics of how the viewer would see the piece in a way that if something went wrong(as you never know) I could quickly access the relevent parts.

max developing

Following the assignment ‘Fragmentation’ I started thingking about the various angles I could take. Initialy I was thinking about dreams and how, although I know not everyone remembers thier dreams, a number who remember them after waking up will only remember fragments and theres a common dream of running as you loose sight/ everything going black so I wondered if I could put soemthng together that could mean you could try and hold onto stories and stop them going black. This ended up seeming quite game like and i started wondering if this sort of game is already out. I re looked at the assignment, definitions from different dictionaries as im always interested in the ways definition differ. Focus then went to the idea of throwing soemthing, having a physical impact that would effect a digital outcome. I realised that max breaks down into the input and the output and these can be connected by a number, the input changing numbers for the output to put to use.

I decided that if I could get the output woring then I could choose an input that would just give that changing number. I think I went for something that seems to me quite obvious, fragments by Jean Baudrillard, only the book entitled fragments has quite large paragraphs and I wanted soemthing shorter. I turned to Cool Memories which is a 5 book series full of various stand alone thoughts and points. When looking back through the 4 books I have I always get caught on one particular comment and end up thinking for some time, yet the pages are so crowded. I decided this would be good to take quotes that could be interesting to all ages (that can read) and types of people, wether they think about it thourghly of for just a moment.

I scanned various pages where I saw a quote or few that suited the overall aesthetic I was going for. Got a demo of one of the adobe suits that had photoshop as everytime I went into uni the only computer free was the big one that dosnt have photoshop! but Im happy witht he demo, I also wanted to put the full reference at the bottom of each page so if anyone saw a quote they were particularly interested in they could find it within the book.

In the end from the pages I scanned I just happened to pick 100 quotes. A good number for the out put in max.

I photoshoped these all to the same size, square with the quote just above the middle. The quotes ended up having a poetry almost zen like feel.

Creative web Performance!

The following video is documentation of a performance piece put together for the module Creative Web and Interactive Narrative called No Shape without Shadow.

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/24148617[/vimeo]

Credits

Jenny Hayes – Costume and presentation

Santiago Laserna – leaflet, advertisement, lighting and music controls and blog: http://noshapenoshadow.blogspot.com/

Martin Hylton – Additional choreography, lighting.

Isobel Taylor – Video and interactivity

Andrea Masala – Dancer

Special thanks to -

Pengfei Zhang and Andrzej Wojtas – interactivity

Neil and Richard – technical support

max~

After spending the last few weeks focused on the creative web deadline I have only given a bit of thought to the max deadline, however I really like the patches that came out of the creative web work so I would like to work on them and maybe incorporate and additional something, perhaps a more solid physical element, object of some kind, or a challenge viewers could do using the visualisation.

I have looked into a few pieces that involve swings and the silhouette from the visulisation reminds me of Anthony McCall’s work which after seeing in the Serpentine is one of my favourite pieces of art to date. Some of the reasons for this is that when I arrived it was packed and everyone who was there was in amazement and interacting with the solid light in their own ways, sitting and watching others, waving the mist around, lining their faces up in the light, looking at the waves on different angles and heights. Everything about it seemed to be inspected all at once by all ages, And everyone was having fun, smiling, laughing, talking to whoever else is playing in the light. http://www.anthonymccall.com/

Im not sure I could create something that could have such a fantastic reaction but I would like to try to look towards that direction.

The following are some photographs I took at the show I saw in the Serpentine Gallery, London, 2007.

On friday Berit showed me something she was working on using graphite, the laser cutter and current. I wonder if I could incorporate something from this, or if perhaps this is best saved for a future piece of work.

Creative web Interactivity work – Max msp

For the interactive side of the creative web module it was decided that the speed of the dancer, Andrea, would alter the speed of the video itself.

This in the end was only one part of the interaction.

This is the first Max patch made in the second Max msp doing class. From explining this to Pengfei the next day we both realised it could be used to monitor the movement of the dancer and change the speed of the video. So we looked into it with help from Andrzej.

Although there were many patches in between this was the next stage, getting the film connected to the numbers in max.

This was almost the final version of the patch, however to get the full screen for the projection Andrezj added an extra part.

 

This is a still from a video of testing the dancer in the jacket with the light silhouette.

 

 

 

 

 

Interactivity testing by Martins Kids.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Doing: max

May 17th 2011:

Its been a while since I have used Max and its great to get back into. I don’t quite remember much in particular but some patches remind me of previous work. Mainly I feel that I understand the possibilities. This has been very useful with creative web as the collaborative piece I have been involved with ended up using max for the interaction side of it.

Max msp

The first Max msp class was last week and I have been doing some research since. I have used max msp before in my BA final show, though it was very basic real time video editing. I can see how max is very much used for music/sound projects as a synthesiser like instrument, but Im quite interested in what else its been used for. In my BA there were a few of us who took Max msp classes and one of the others did a piece where max translated tweets made by Steven Fry into bird sounds, so real tweet noises, and depending on the words, length etc. different volumes, length of tweet and pitch.

When doing some searches online I found a few interactive pieces I think are interesting, first one I found on the max msp website :

http://cycling74.com/project/syndyn-artisitc-sport-game/

I think the piece has a really good look and knowing Porto is very fitting to the arts there. It also has a very complete feel to me, they have linked up an ipod for theme choice and stylised the piece.

I found this next piece through some searches, its by  and they’ve done a few pieces but I found this the most interesting. I remember seeing an art show with an interactive swing when I was in junior school and thinking how good the idea of it was, so here again many years on I find another piece, and I still like the idea of using the swing. As you get older there are less chances to use a swing and its seen as more for children but I know if an adult gets the chance to go on one they will enjoy it just as much as a child would, wether this is related to memories or perhaps just the feeling of a freer motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsZ81JNNU3I

Im not quite sure what to do for my piece yet but I think Im leaning toward interactive and video. Im keen on making work thats mainly either silent or makes the noise that it makes.